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	<title>Comments on: Buffy Season 8, Issue #15</title>
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	<description>it means whatever you think it means</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, gosh.  That's the stuff I thought I was getting with these.  OK, back to the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, gosh.  That&#8217;s the stuff I thought I was getting with these.  OK, back to the store.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I don't think so.  The Omnibus is all stories with Buffy in them.  But the "Slayers" book has no Buffy in it at all, and "Vampires" only has an appearance by her in one story -- a story written by Drew Goddard, centered around Dracula &#038; Xander, which was basically the set-up for this most recent plot arc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t think so.  The Omnibus is all stories with Buffy in them.  But the &#8220;Slayers&#8221; book has no Buffy in it at all, and &#8220;Vampires&#8221; only has an appearance by her in one story &#8212; a story written by Drew Goddard, centered around Dracula &#038; Xander, which was basically the set-up for this most recent plot arc.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking those were included in this Omnibus series, but maybe not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking those were included in this Omnibus series, but maybe not?</p>
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		<title>By: GeekBoy</title>
		<link>http://gagglefrak.com/comics/buffy-season-8/buffy-season-8-issue-15/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Tales of the Slayer" and "Tales of the Vampire" were both great.

Michael, I think I recommended those to you last year, but I'm not sure if you ever picked them up.  It's basically a bunch of short comics stories about slayers and vampires throughout time -- some of whom we know and some we don't -- written by Joss and some of the other writers from Buffy/Angel, with various artists.

In fact, I need to go dig those up and read them again ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tales of the Slayer&#8221; and &#8220;Tales of the Vampire&#8221; were both great.</p>
<p>Michael, I think I recommended those to you last year, but I&#8217;m not sure if you ever picked them up.  It&#8217;s basically a bunch of short comics stories about slayers and vampires throughout time &#8212; some of whom we know and some we don&#8217;t &#8212; written by Joss and some of the other writers from Buffy/Angel, with various artists.</p>
<p>In fact, I need to go dig those up and read them again &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill a.k.a. Nerdy Bird</title>
		<link>http://gagglefrak.com/comics/buffy-season-8/buffy-season-8-issue-15/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill a.k.a. Nerdy Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*the "tales" books is what I was asking about there in case that wasn't clear*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*the &#8220;tales&#8221; books is what I was asking about there in case that wasn&#8217;t clear*</p>
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		<title>By: Jill a.k.a. Nerdy Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill a.k.a. Nerdy Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I often let boys take advantage of my weak emotional states.” was probably my favorite but the jeans and irony was close.

Everything with Xander and Dracula was pure drama gold. 

I actually went and picked up the Fray trade after the last time you mentioned it. It was really cool so I'm excited to see how they work this out in the current run. I can imagine there will be a lot of advice about slaying and hair care.

I just picked up "Tales of the Vampires" the other day and I'm waiting on "Tales of the Slayer" to be delivered to my comic shop. I haven't read the omnibus stuff either because it wasn't written by Joss but those two partly are. Have you ever read them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I often let boys take advantage of my weak emotional states.” was probably my favorite but the jeans and irony was close.</p>
<p>Everything with Xander and Dracula was pure drama gold. </p>
<p>I actually went and picked up the Fray trade after the last time you mentioned it. It was really cool so I&#8217;m excited to see how they work this out in the current run. I can imagine there will be a lot of advice about slaying and hair care.</p>
<p>I just picked up &#8220;Tales of the Vampires&#8221; the other day and I&#8217;m waiting on &#8220;Tales of the Slayer&#8221; to be delivered to my comic shop. I haven&#8217;t read the omnibus stuff either because it wasn&#8217;t written by Joss but those two partly are. Have you ever read them?</p>
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		<title>By: GeekBoy</title>
		<link>http://gagglefrak.com/comics/buffy-season-8/buffy-season-8-issue-15/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot hinges on how well the new &lt;i&gt;Dollhouse&lt;/i&gt; series does next year.  If it catches on with the mainstream, then that probably opens up doors for revisiting some of these other franchises on the big/small screen.  Firefly/Serenity definitely established a strong selling base ... but not quite enough to make it either a TV or box-office smash for the studios.  But if &lt;i&gt;Dollhouse&lt;/i&gt; can capture the breadth of audience that Lost and Battlestar have captured, then it might re-validate Whedon to Hollywood, might get people excited about his past shows again ... and then anything could happen.  Including a Fray movie ... or even better -- a TV show.

To be honest, as much as I'd love to see the Buffy/Angel characters on a big or small screen, at this point, I think it's too late for them to carry a project.  They've all aged just enough, physically and mentally, and I don't know if their heads would be in it any more.  It could end up being more disappointing than awesome, you know?  I'd rather see them all make cool cameo appearances in a new project that took place in the same universe/mythology -- the way it was cool to get &lt;i&gt;Buffy&lt;/i&gt; character cameos in the &lt;i&gt;Angel&lt;/i&gt; TV show after Buffy was canceled.  And a Fray series -- or some other new Buffy-verse series -- would let that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot hinges on how well the new <i>Dollhouse</i> series does next year.  If it catches on with the mainstream, then that probably opens up doors for revisiting some of these other franchises on the big/small screen.  Firefly/Serenity definitely established a strong selling base &#8230; but not quite enough to make it either a TV or box-office smash for the studios.  But if <i>Dollhouse</i> can capture the breadth of audience that Lost and Battlestar have captured, then it might re-validate Whedon to Hollywood, might get people excited about his past shows again &#8230; and then anything could happen.  Including a Fray movie &#8230; or even better &#8212; a TV show.</p>
<p>To be honest, as much as I&#8217;d love to see the Buffy/Angel characters on a big or small screen, at this point, I think it&#8217;s too late for them to carry a project.  They&#8217;ve all aged just enough, physically and mentally, and I don&#8217;t know if their heads would be in it any more.  It could end up being more disappointing than awesome, you know?  I&#8217;d rather see them all make cool cameo appearances in a new project that took place in the same universe/mythology &#8212; the way it was cool to get <i>Buffy</i> character cameos in the <i>Angel</i> TV show after Buffy was canceled.  And a Fray series &#8212; or some other new Buffy-verse series &#8212; would let that happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or a movie, of course!  The cast is still so young.  Can't we have a movie before it's too late?

Yeah, prolly not.

I'd take a &lt;i&gt;Fray&lt;/i&gt; movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a movie, of course!  The cast is still so young.  Can&#8217;t we have a movie before it&#8217;s too late?</p>
<p>Yeah, prolly not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d take a <i>Fray</i> movie.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I've never read any of the comics in the Omnibus.  In fact, I've hardly read any of the Buffy/Angel comics that aren't considered "canon".  My understanding of the Omnibus is that it includes stories that, while neither canonical nor written/plotted by Whedon himself, were loosely "approved" by his office.  And that the story "The Origin" was presumably written from Joss's original script for the movie, which ended up having only a vague resemblance to the movie itself, which was taken out of his hands by the studio at some point, because they felt Joss was being difficult.

But the key thing to keep in mind is that it was comic book guys who wrote most if not all of the stories in the Omnibus, and not either Joss or the TV show writers.  So I'm not surprised to hear that the tone and dialogue seem a bit off.  One of the reasons I was so excited to hear that Joss would be helming a "Season 8" comic is that I knew we'd get a book that was true to the feel of the series itself.  And sure enough, he's pulled that off, both with Buffy and Angel.

Having said all that, I've always been curious to read some of those stories, in particular for the origin story, and to see how somebody imagined what happened between the movie and the TV series.  I've just never gotten around to it.

What would be even better, of course, is if Joss himself would write/plot a version of that same time period.  Call it "Buffy: Season Zero" maybe.  Who knows -- if the title continues to do well, maybe he will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I&#8217;ve never read any of the comics in the Omnibus.  In fact, I&#8217;ve hardly read any of the Buffy/Angel comics that aren&#8217;t considered &#8220;canon&#8221;.  My understanding of the Omnibus is that it includes stories that, while neither canonical nor written/plotted by Whedon himself, were loosely &#8220;approved&#8221; by his office.  And that the story &#8220;The Origin&#8221; was presumably written from Joss&#8217;s original script for the movie, which ended up having only a vague resemblance to the movie itself, which was taken out of his hands by the studio at some point, because they felt Joss was being difficult.</p>
<p>But the key thing to keep in mind is that it was comic book guys who wrote most if not all of the stories in the Omnibus, and not either Joss or the TV show writers.  So I&#8217;m not surprised to hear that the tone and dialogue seem a bit off.  One of the reasons I was so excited to hear that Joss would be helming a &#8220;Season 8&#8243; comic is that I knew we&#8217;d get a book that was true to the feel of the series itself.  And sure enough, he&#8217;s pulled that off, both with Buffy and Angel.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I&#8217;ve always been curious to read some of those stories, in particular for the origin story, and to see how somebody imagined what happened between the movie and the TV series.  I&#8217;ve just never gotten around to it.</p>
<p>What would be even better, of course, is if Joss himself would write/plot a version of that same time period.  Call it &#8220;Buffy: Season Zero&#8221; maybe.  Who knows &#8212; if the title continues to do well, maybe he will!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I kind of knew about MECHA Godzilla.  It was on the periphery of my awareness, but I didn't know if there was more to it.  

&lt;i&gt;Well, there's something you don't see every day.&lt;/i&gt;

But you're still Andrew.  

I just picked up the Buffy Omnibus (Volume 1).  Spike and Dru at the World's Fair!  It's fun, but the tone and dialog don't seem quite right.  Does it get better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I kind of knew about MECHA Godzilla.  It was on the periphery of my awareness, but I didn&#8217;t know if there was more to it.  </p>
<p><i>Well, there&#8217;s something you don&#8217;t see every day.</i></p>
<p>But you&#8217;re still Andrew.  </p>
<p>I just picked up the Buffy Omnibus (Volume 1).  Spike and Dru at the World&#8217;s Fair!  It&#8217;s fun, but the tone and dialog don&#8217;t seem quite right.  Does it get better?</p>
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